Talked with Sales:

- first salesperson said: "We are anticipating the Newer XPS 15 laptops to be launched by Dec last week or by Mid Jan that comes with 14th Gen Processors and preinstalled Ubuntu OS on them".

- Second salesperson said they don't have an ETA yet.

- Third salesperson said "The product development is working on these 2 models, we are soon expecting them to launch in next 3 to 4 weeks [Nov 13-20] but the exact date of launch has not be shared with us ... the Precision models will have these options [Ubuntu] ... the XPS 15 will not have the Ubuntu options".

- Fourth salesperson said "by early 2025".

- Fifth salesperson said "we don't have a date"

- Sixth salesperson said "we dont have eccurate date, you may see it XPS laptop with 14th gen chip in the end of December ... and it may not come with unibuntu option ... You will see Precision laptops with Ubuntu option"

Oh and they do have a Precision from 2023 pre-installed with Ubuntu[1], somehow wasn't visible before.

Dell sales and support is pretty, so have to ask multiple times.

[1] https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/precision-3581-...

Good point. I'm fine just doing with fingerprint reader, did you send it back because you wanted that feature, or was it causing some deeper issue?

I was thinking to go for the XPS 15 since it's rated as the best overall Linux laptop in 2023 by Zdnet[1] and xda-developers[2].

[1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/best-linux-laptop/ [2] https://www.xda-developers.com/best-laptops-linux/

Hard to negotiate when Windows has monopoly pricing power and Dell doesn't.

When I first starting using Ubuntu 10+ years ago, getting a new laptop was like going to battle. My patience has gone down for this stuff as I've gotten older, but fortunately it's gotten commensurately easier every year.

Just talked with a Sales person yesterday. Indeed, from the new models, only the XPS 13 runs Ubuntu, but the keyboard looks like a nightmare. The sales person did send a link to a Precision with Ubuntu option, but it was 2022 model (Precision 5570).

Will probably get XPS 15 and put Ubuntu on myself. Annoying to fork money over to Microsoft for nothing.