“I can not do that on OpenBSD without a huge headache and very bad performance.”

This applies to practically everything, not just virtualization!

> flatpak: I really like software distribution done with flatpak, packages are all running in their own namespace, they can't access all the file system, you can roll back to a previous version, and do some interesting stuff

As of today flatpak still has holes you can drive a truck through.

This points out something we forget at times: being a fan of a thing shouldn't mean we have to suffer for it.

NetBSD doesn't have GPU compute capabilities, plus browser DRM is a PITA, so I run macOS, too. If I have to choose between not doing a thing at all and doing it in a less enjoyable environment, it's only my own foot that suffers were I to choose not doing it at all.

What really matters here is that systems shouldn't crash or panic at all, ever, or if they do, the filesystems used shouldn't lose data or otherwise become corrupt. We left the lack of memory protection in the '80s (some of us the '90s), so there's no excuse if the hardware isn't faulty.

So I have to wonder why the OpenBSD folks, who prioritize security over speed, for example, wouldn't prioritize stability over everything except possibly security (I'd rather a panic than a compromise) and spend some energy looking in to these issues and fix them?

Why wouldn't any filesystem corruption (which could have security implications if the corruption can be controlled) and/or data loss be considered a sign of other deep issues and be made a high priority at OpenBSD?

Perhaps Solène's writeup will be a good wake-up call for the OpenBSD people.

Makes sense. I've always assumed that OpenBSD has a very narrow use case anyway. I love it for a network firewall because the configuration files are sane and easy to understand (stares at systemd networkd). I set it and forget it.

Sorry to see Solène Rapenne move on, I wish her success going forward. She has been a great asset to the OpenBSD team. But glad she will still try and help them out a bit.

But in a way she has a point :( Just a few weeks ago I had a panic with 7.6 and half my files in /home disappeared. In the past I never lost data on an fsck, plus I never had a panic in many years. But glad I clone /home to another device daily :)

But I still will use OpenBSD for testing items I develop on Linux. It is a great help finding issues where Linux will ignore some bugs I insert.