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⬅️ Passkeys: A shattered dream
saagarjha 12 daysReload
The biggest issue with passkeys is that I just can't trust the companies offering them. They are locked into the platform for reasons that are ostensibly security but often indistinguishable from platform lock-in. If you make a passkey on an Apple device as far as I can tell it will never leave that device, ever, and there is no way to change this. Of course this means you can never be phished for your credentials but if Apple decides to delete your key or you want to leave your iPhone behind, what are you supposed to do?

tunesmith 12 daysReload
Every time I see a long inscrutable discussion about Passkeys, I see a weird avoidance of the "something you know" part of security. Here in the US, courts and law enforcement have every right to get your username, fingerprint, retina scan, face ID, whatever. But they don't have the right to extract something from your brain. Unless I'm missing something basic (which at this point, I don't think is my fault since this whole thing appears incredibly difficult to explain), Passkeys skips past that whole thing in favor of making it a heck of a lot easier to replace "something you know" with "something you have". Which is a security nightmare.

shepherdjerred 12 daysReload
Here's my opposing view: I love Passkeys.

I use Firefox as my browser and 1Password as my password manager. On my iPhone, I use 1Password + Firefox.

I look at https://passkeys.directory/ every so often and switch my logins from passwords to passkeys. This has included a lot of my common logins like GitHub, Google, and Microsoft.

There is a lot of confusing terminology. For some reason sites will say "login with Touch ID" or "login with Windows Hello" instead of "login with Passkey".

Aside from that quirk, I love it. 1Password syncs my passkeys between devices. I can use them both on my laptop and my phone. It would be inconvenient if I needed to login to a shared computer e.g. at a library or friend's house, but I don't do that often enough to care (though of course some people do, which is totally valid).


joshstrange 12 daysReload
I’ve avoided passkeys so far because I just don’t have a good mental model of them. All my passwords are randomly generate and stored in a password manager so I really haven’t felt the need to switch or felt constrained by my existing set up.

I fully understand username/email + password and remembering the pain of things like “app specific passwords” makes me worry that some tools (open source, cli, etc) might not integrate well with password less so it’s best to stay where I am until things settle out better.


myspy 12 daysReload
I think I'm a tech guy and know my fields. I still have no real clue how passkeys work, how it is better, what it really is.

When your security feature is not as simple as - remember a name and a password and store it somewhere safe - it doesn't work.

Something about keys that are on devices. But what happens when I use a phone and a pc? How to get access then? Do I need a User/PW for the first time? Or do I need one of those keys I have to plug into the device first?